by Georgie Clare, Sales Consultant
SkinViva Training’s Sales Consultant shares her experience and insight into the issues of prescribing BOTOX and finding a prescriber.
It is one of the questions we’re most often asked. Georgie’s blog will give readers all the facts to make the right decision.
by Georgie Clare
“In the course of my job as a Sales Consultant for SkinViva Training (specialists in Aesthetic Training for injectables) I am regularly asked
‘If I am not a prescriber, how can I do treatments with Botox (Botulinum Toxin) which is a prescription only medicine (POM)’
“When I advise them it is perfectly possible to practise as a non-prescriber, providing they can organise their consultations with an Independent prescriber and factor in the costs, it can work very well.
“Prospective delegates understandably want to know more.
“Firstly the non-prescriber needs to link up with a prescriber and there are various ways they can do this. At SkinViva Training we are keen to nurture our delegates and will actively give advice and will also try to assist this linking up.
“An independent prescriber ideally should have aesthetic experience in order to prescribe in that field. We are aware that several pharmacies require nurse prescribers to provide their certificate of aesthetic training, prior to allowing them to prescribe Botulinum Toxin in aesthetic medicine.
“All clients are required to have a physical face to face consultation with their prescriber. Face time, video links like skype and general remote prescribing are no longer permitted by the NMC, GDC or GMC.
“The prescriber is normally paid directly by the non-prescriber, bank transfer is often the most convenient method. Costs vary but typically £25-30 per consultation.
“Interestingly, the non-prescriber need not be present for the consultation, although they may wish to be. Likewise, the prescriber does not need to be present whilst the non-prescriber administers the Botox.
“Consultation complete, the prescriber orders the products either on their online pharmacy account or that of the non-prescriber, adding their credentials. It is quite normal for the pharmacy to verify that the prescriber is happy to prescribe for the non-prescriber when they first order.
“The billing address and delivery address entered are those of the non-prescriber who will pay for the products and have them delivered to them directly.
“Unless you are a doctor or dentist allowed to hold stock, any other medical professional would need to order the products in, thus a delay between consultation and treatment.
“Under GMC guidelines, clients should be given time to consider their treatment and should not feel pressured or obliged to have a treatment at the consultation appointment. At SkinViva we regularly have consultation – only appointments and clients return at a later date for their treatments.
“I am frequently asked
“How long do the pharmacies take to deliver your order?”
“Depending on what time of day you order and the opening hours of the pharmacy, you can often get a delivery the next working day.
“The majority of our delegates are non-prescribing medical professionals – nurses, paramedics, dental therapists and dental hygienists. Through hard work and commitment their Aesthetic business has taken off, they often return to reinvest into their business by taking further advanced courses enabling them to meet the treatment demands of their client base.
“I would be happy to discuss any questions regards prescribing in aesthetics or indeed any other aesthetic training questions you may have. Contact Georgie on 0161 850 2491”
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Can paramedics with V300 independent prescribers qualifications at level 7 prescribe Botox for injection? Very few sources mention paramedic prescribers.
If you have prescribing rights, then yes, you should be able to prescribe BOTOX for injection. However, it would also be worth checking with your insurers as well as your pharmaceutical supplier, just in case they have any restrictions on this.
Hi I’ve been doing botox for approx 3 yrs as a doctor. I have been approached to become a prescriber .I will be checking credentials etc. I understand that I need to have a f2f for each client..logistically do I sit in every consultation and order individual prescriptions from my pharmacy? I have previously just ordered in bulk for my clients? Appreciate your advice on this.
Hi, you definitely need to see each patient face-to-face every time. Some prescribers see more than one client in a session in order to make it worthwhile. Once you have consulted the patient(s), you can then order the botulinum toxin through your chosen pharmacy and get it sent direct to the clinician.
Hi, I’m looking for a prescriber in Derby/Nottingham please, I’m a nurse with my own business on derby.
Hi Megan, we charge a £299 fee to find you a precsriber. I would have to check to see if we have anyone who could help. Can I have your postcode please? SVT Team
Hi. Im looking for a prescriber for Botox in the west end, london. Can you recommend anyone?
Ghazaleh H
Hi, we have a network of prescribers across the UK. Access to our Prescribers List is free of charge for our delegates as part of our commitment to ongoing support. If you have not trained with us, you can choose to access our non-delegate ‘Find A Prescriber’ service for a fee of £299, subject to meeting our normal criteria and requirements which include medical qualification and membership of a suitable professional body. More information and links to view/enquire are at https://www.skinvivatraining.com/downloads/find-a-prescriber/.
Hi I am looking for a nurse prescriber to prescribe Botox for my clients, is this something you are able to help me with, I live in Rotherham, South Yorkshire
Kind regards
Rezina
Looking for a prescriber in north wales: Chester area please. My clinics are shotton and flint.
Hello Courtney,
If you email your requirements over to info@skinvivatraining.com, a colleague will be able to advise you.
thanks,
Jack
Hi I am a non medical prescriber with a V 300 qualification. I work 30 hrs per week as a senior sister in an urgent care centre and more recently part time as aesthetic nurse which I really enjoy. I have qualifications in Botox , fillers and more recently sunekos injectable skin care treatments. Could you please let me know if Is it possible to prescribe and administer aesthetic treatments products to family members and friends?
Thankyou
Hi Katherine. Thanks for your question. It’s a good one! I’m not familiar with the NMC rules on this, but I know that the GMC looks down on treating family and close friends due in large part to the potential to lose objectivity, and the professional bodies tend to be of one mind on these kind of things. Here’s an interesting article: https://gmcuk.wordpress.com/2015/08/10/prescribing-to-friends-and-family-an-ethical-minefield/. You may also want to check with your insurers and governing body.
Hope that helps.
Hi Katherine,
Did you have any luck on finding out the guidance around prescribing for yourself when just starting in aesthetics with your v300? I can’t seem to find any information other than you can’t prescribe for others unless you have 1 years experience.
April
Hi
I am thinking of prescribing Botox,I am trained in botox and a nurse prescriber.Can you advise if I have regular three monthly clients do they need a face to face every time?
Thanks in advance
Yes, a face to face consultation and prescription is required each time BOTOX® treatment is carried out.
Hi,I am an independent nurse prescriber and wondered how I might go about being eligible to prescribe botox as a means to increase my income. I have been approached by a practitioner seeking a prescriber but without any relevant training this is not something I could currently consider.
Any information on relevant training and costs of this would be greatly appreciated.
If you have prescribing rights that’s a great start. We’d then recommend a training course in BOTOX®. Even if you are only prescribing and not injecting, insurers tend to want evidence of training.
We recommend the Foundation BOTOX® & Dermal Fillers course as the best place to start.
Please contact us if you’d like to discuss this further.
Hi , I am a pharmacist independent prescriber who has completed training 10 months ago in Advanced botox and fillers.
I am now wanting to start a business; would I only be able to do this by first setting up a business name and obtaining insurance?
Also can all my stock be ordered via church pharmacy?
Is there any training packages you provide for those who have had previous training but feel as though they need more practice?
Hi, yes, you would need to set up a company and insurance and a company bank account and ensure that you can obtain stock. Church Pharmacy is an option for you – you can also ask on the SkinViva Trainee Network (Facebook) for recommendations.
In terms of a refresher course before you start, you may want to consider booking one to one sessions, which can be tailor-made to your requirements. You might also consider eLearning video courses.
If you have any further queries or would like to chat things through, please feel free to contact us at 0161 850 2491 or email info@skinvivatraining.com.
Hi how long can Azzalure be stored for before being discarded off once mixed with Bacteriostatic Saline? I was initally told14 days.
Hi Alana. Thanks for your question. It’s best to follow the manufacturers’ leaflet. Standard industry practice is to keep it for 2 weeks.
Does that mean that if all the botox was not used on a patients prescription I would have to dispose of the remaining units as I have noticed the botox seems to come in 50 to 100 unit quantities?
Yes the BOTOX® should be discarded after use for that patient, as it has been prescribed for them only (unless you are doctor or dentist who can hold “stock”). Remember, generally the consensus is you can keep BOTOX® open for upto 4 weeks if mixed with bacteriostatic saline, so you could use it on the patients “top up” treatment.
I am a non prescribing pharmacist thinking about training in aesthetics. When I have completed my training will I be able to hold stock eg Botox
Hi, only doctors and dentists can hold stock of BOTOX®, but many other professions carry out aesthetic treatments working with a prescriber. Please contact our team if you want to chat through how it all works. You can call us on 0161 850 2491 or email info@skinvivatraining.com.
Hi I am a registered nurse looking for a prescriber for injectable in North Carolina. Would you be able to help with this?
Sorry, our list only covers the UK.
Can I offer Botox and Fillers in the clients own home? So working mobile?
We would recommend checking with your insurance company on mobile working, as they may restrict cover to salon/clinic only.
Hi, I’m a nurse prescriber. What course would I need to complete to start prescribing Botox.
Thank you. Kay.
Hi, in our experience, insurers will expect you to be ‘trained, competent and indemnified for the work you undertake’. Some insurers may accept an online eLearning course, whereas other insurers state that practical training is required due to the importance of dealing with complications.
We can certainly help with any training required, but the first priority is to check with your own insurance company.
This article gives more information https://www.skinvivatraining.com/2018/04/26/do-you-need-aesthetics-training-to-prescribe-botox/
How often a prescriber is expected to see a patient for a consultation ? Is it once a year? Once every 6 months? Or a one off is enough to keep prescribing toxin for the same patient?
You would need a prescriber to provide a current prescription for each and every treatment.
Hi,
I have the prescribing qualification, do you offer any courses on prescribing botox? I need to find out the assessment process and how I go about obtaining prescription pad and ordering the botox etc.
Thank you for your enquiry, it has been forwarded to our team and they will be in touch direct. Alternatively, please feel free to email info@skinvivatraining.com (please include your contact number so that we can call you back) – or else call direct on 0161 850 2491 and we will be happy to help.
Good day
I am looking for a prescriber in BOTOX. I am beauty therapist and I am in the Plymouth Devon can you help me with this.
Thank you Jackie Calvert
Hi, any practitioners that have trained with SkinViva Training Academy, you can access our nationwide list of prescribers either via the SkinViva Trainee Network on Facebook, or on our website at Exclusive Delegates Prescribers List. These resources are not publicly available, but are exclusively for the use of our delegates.
SkinViva Training only train certain medical professionals and don’t offer courses for beauty therapists; therefore we assume your training must have been with another provider. We would be unable to share our contacts in this instance and suggest asking your training provider, pharmacy or previous prescriber for assistance.
Hi
I would like to know, when a client is prescribed botox for a delagate to administer, is tge prescription valid for future use, or does the client need a new face to face appointment with the prescriber each time?
Thanks
Interested in your course.
Hi, clients will need a new face to face appointment and new prescription each time. The only exception is in cases of follow up treatment carried out a couple of weeks after the initial treatment i.e. if it hasn’t fully taken the first time round.
Hi
I have been trained in Botox and fillers and need a doctor to prescribe the medication
Do you know any suitable service
Hi, if you trained with SkinViva Training Academy, you should have access to the Facebook SkinViva Trainee Network. This page includes a list of prescribers and you can also ask for advice from other members. This is a closed network with exclusive access for SkinViva Training delegates after completing their training. Unfortunately we can only provide such advice for past delegates of SkinViva Training.
I’m a a junior doctor. I have Full GMC registration. Can I prescribe Botox .
Hi, it would depend on whether you have training for the application of Botox in Aesthetic Medicine and Insurance for prescribing it. If you’d like to discuss this further, please do feel free to email info@skinvivatraining.com, or else call direct on 0161 850 2491.